Friday, December 11, 2009

My sufferings to get CF for renovated house

A bit of history :
(1) In March 2007, I finally completed the S & P to take delivery of an old double story house in OUG, Kuala Lumpur.
(2) I then approached few builidng contractors on proper procedure to get approved renovation from DBKL and also quotation of the renovation. Contractors recommended few draughtsmen or architects. I gatherd some costing information (both DBKL approval and my required renovations) from the survey. Due to cost consideration as well as doubt on the backgroud of the recommended draghtsmen, I went to seek help from DBKL in July 2008.
(3) At DBKL, I asked for help and advice from the Technical Assistant (TA) sitting at the helpdesk at ground floor. The TA pulled cards from few name cardholders on his desk and asked me to discussed further with these guys whom he said know the approval processes on house renovation in DBKL. ( During the discussion, he never offered any direction to me to ask Board of Architect for the list of Buidling Draughtsman who can submit plans to DBKL!)
(4) I called few of these guys, and one of them, Afizul Bin Tajuddin (IC 790420-10-5335 H/P; 012-343 4766) answered and we discussed further at the project site (the house in OUG). We negotiated the price, scheduled payment and works. I took his particulars (IC, phone and photo). I then paid him the deposit as first payment.
(5) Afizul quickly came out with the plan and made further amendments to meet quirement. On 22/09/2008, I went with him to DBKL and submitted the plan to Planning Department (DBKL). At that moment, I realised the signature was 'Jamali Basir -Building Draughtsman at Pandan Jaya. I was concern and asked Afizul if he wotked for this Jamali. He did not answer but proceeded to submit the builing plan to DBKL which accepted the submission and gave me the receipt. He then smiled and said 'don't worry, the proof is here that I am genuine'
(6) On 13 Oct 2008, Planning Department (DBKL) issued a green form which is the approval for the submitted plan. Afizul then proceeded to prepare the strucural plan and later submitted the plan to Buiilding Department (DBKL) . (My fault for not noting there is a directive stated in the Green form of Planning Department that we have to submit a sanitory drawing!). I paid Afizul for the completed works to submit the sructural plan to Budiling Department.
(7) Problems started from here. Since the submission, we did not hear further from DBKL. Afizul did not answer all my phone calls. We then call the Jamali Basir who claimed he 'makan tulang, while others makan daging'. I then realised that Jamali 'sold his signature to Afizul!!.
(8) My wife managed to conatct a En Tahir of Building Department. En Tahir informed that his office had sent letter and contacted Jamali on a minor amendment on the submitted plan. However, Jamali did not respond. He said it was lucky we contacted him, as he was about to reject the plan due to non-action by Jamali. He advsied my wife to come to office to do the amendment herself. My wife called Afizul but again no reply. She then bought the necessary stationary and at that time Afizul retuned the call. He and my wife then rushed to DBKL yo make the amendment (just 2 short strokes of pencil on the gutter).
(9) Tahir reminded my wife on the sanitary plan infront of Afizul. She requested Afizul to complete the plan.
(10) Thereafter, we did not hear further from Afizul.
(11) On 27/03/09, We got the approval from Building Department (yelloe form). We engaged a contractor to execute the renovation. Meanwhile, we kept up contact with Afizul and Jamali. Afizul did not return our call, while Jamali came twice to building site.
(12) On these 2 visits by Jamali, I urged him to submit the sanitary plan and asked him to help to complete the last process (Form F) to get CF (from DBKL) for my renovated house. This Jamali always stated ' dia makan tulang, while others makan daging'. I did say ' so, give me quotation and we would then discuss further on an agreed price'
(13) Alas, this Jamali never responded. I went to Building Department DBKL to seek advice. Their view is ' the builing by-law does not permit me to change Building draughtman on my renovation' . feedback form staff of DBKL indicated this Jamali is a 'rouge' Building Draughtsmand with problems similar to mine (i.e. selling names to submit plans, but no follow up). I then wrote to Jamali Basir (by AR letter) asking him to release himself. He did not reply despite acknowledgement of my letter. I then wrote to DBKL to ask DBKL to release this Jamali Basir.
(14) 01/12/09, DBKL issued me a letter to release Jamali Basir. Upon the receipt of this letter, I googled the web page of Board of Architects (as advised by a friend) to look for registered Building Draughtsman (BD) . I called up few of these BD to seek their service. Their responses were (a) DBKL letter to me to release Jamali Basir ias the BD of my house is not valid for the other BD to take over the works I requested, i.e prepare the sanitory plan and later to complete the Form F to get CF, and (ii) They consider other basis such as responsibilty, legal, etc which are not advisable for them to take over the work of Jamali Basir as the BD.

All my sufferings !!!! Due to one man - this Jamali Basir who lent his signature to draughtsman.


On 11/12/09, I have written a letter to tell the Board of Architect on my present sufferings and chronology of the events listed above

Public beware---- This Jamali Basir is still on the registered list of BD in the Board Of Architects.